Phil, Jerry and me have been in a discussion on texts regarding the tee box controversy. Here is my opinion from our conversations:
As far as an advantage, it makes no difference what tee box a player plays as long as they always play the same tee box. Sure, it's preferred a player that's under 65 that hits the ball long and has a low handicap that they play the appropriate tee box to their golfing abilities. But, if you have an average or below average player that enjoys the game more if they can score more points, at least in our league, from a forward tee box then why can't they? We are always wanting new members but to criticize someone who wants to enjoy the game by taking fewer strokes and be competitive then what's the problem???
Pace of Play: Our number one bitch from members is a person's pace of play. These "slower" players are usually slower because they are taking more strokes to get to the green and losing their ball more often. It's not necessarily because they are just slow? Are they enjoying the game and going to stick with our league if they CAN'T score and have to pick up after a missed bogey shot? More than likely not for long because they are only making a monetary donation to the more experienced golfers who are consistently in the money.
Skins:
More players are not getting into Skins because we have Gold tee'rs hitting their drive and using, at most, a wedge onto the green for a birdie opportunity. Yes, higher handicappers have a chance for Net Skins but not very often a white tee'r will get a Gross skin. So, Skins is stacked in Gold tee favor for our longer hitting seniors.
CTP:
More white tee'rs are not getting into CTP because the Goldies are usually just hitting a wedge whereas a white tee'r is hitting at least a 7 iron, with the exception of #7.
I know there are players that will say Skins and CTP is not my problem because I don't get into those optional games. But you have to look at this same scenario with the "game" that all players are required to pay $15 to get into.
Game:
The rule is to pick up after you miss your bogey shot and take your ZERO which means NO POINT! Because of that our higher handicappers that struggle to make a point from the White tees is basically just donating money to the more experienced golfers. What fun is that??? How is that being fair to EACH of our members? The only way this would be fair is if we require a player to have a certain skill level to join our league...do we want that?
These are my thoughts on our current situation with the league. Yes, it's been the same rules for decades that the age limit for Gold is 65yo. The USGA is constantly changing the rules of the game so that more golfers for one, are not cheating or having unfair advantages, but mostly to get more golfers on the course and enjoy the game. It's good for business! It's also good for our league to consider certain changes if we want our league to continue to exist, maybe even get more members!
Please provide your thoughts and opinions and please be respectful to others, Tom Carroll.
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Phil, Jerry and me have been in a discussion on texts regarding the tee box controversy. Here is my opinion from our conversations:
As far as an advantage, it makes no difference what tee box a player plays as long as they always play the same tee box. Sure, it's preferred a player that's under 65 that hits the ball long and has a low handicap that they play the appropriate tee box to their golfing abilities. But, if you have an average or below average player that enjoys the game more if they can score more points, at least in our league, from a forward tee box then why can't they? We are always wanting new members but to criticize someone who wants to enjoy the game by taking fewer strokes and be competitive then what's the problem???
Pace of Play: Our number one bitch from members is a person's pace of play. These "slower" players are usually slower because they are taking more strokes to get to the green and losing their ball more often. It's not necessarily because they are just slow? Are they enjoying the game and going to stick with our league if they CAN'T score and have to pick up after a missed bogey shot? More than likely not for long because they are only making a monetary donation to the more experienced golfers who are consistently in the money.
Skins:
More players are not getting into Skins because we have Gold tee'rs hitting their drive and using, at most, a wedge onto the green for a birdie opportunity. Yes, higher handicappers have a chance for Net Skins but not very often a white tee'r will get a Gross skin. So, Skins is stacked in Gold tee favor for our longer hitting seniors.
CTP:
More white tee'rs are not getting into CTP because the Goldies are usually just hitting a wedge whereas a white tee'r is hitting at least a 7 iron, with the exception of #7.
I know there are players that will say Skins and CTP is not my problem because I don't get into those optional games. But you have to look at this same scenario with the "game" that all players are required to pay $15 to get into.
Game:
The rule is to pick up after you miss your bogey shot and take your ZERO which means NO POINT! Because of that our higher handicappers that struggle to make a point from the White tees is basically just donating money to the more experienced golfers. What fun is that??? How is that being fair to EACH of our members? The only way this would be fair is if we require a player to have a certain skill level to join our league...do we want that?
These are my thoughts on our current situation with the league. Yes, it's been the same rules for decades that the age limit for Gold is 65yo. The USGA is constantly changing the rules of the game so that more golfers for one, are not cheating or having unfair advantages, but mostly to get more golfers on the course and enjoy the game. It's good for business! It's also good for our league to consider certain changes if we want our league to continue to exist, maybe even get more members!
Please provide your thoughts and opinions and please be respectful to others, Tom Carroll.
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Andy